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		<title>By: grimboy</title>
		<link>http://grimboy.co.uk/blawg/vim-is-teh-awesombe/comment-page-1/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>grimboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 04:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, so emacs allows you to travel back in time and then centre in on a certain point of time and difficulty? That&#039;s pretty weird. So emacs users get to live forever? I can see the appeal but immortality isn&#039;t my thing. Also vi is more difficult than gvim in that you can&#039;t fall back on traditional gui editing techniques when you need to (for example, until I learnt the key for it I would use the menus for spell check). What is it saying about Visual Studio? That it suddenly becomes very easy? Anyway, interesting method of comparison. I&#039;m not sure if it inspires conclusions though :D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, so emacs allows you to travel back in time and then centre in on a certain point of time and difficulty? That&#8217;s pretty weird. So emacs users get to live forever? I can see the appeal but immortality isn&#8217;t my thing. Also vi is more difficult than gvim in that you can&#8217;t fall back on traditional gui editing techniques when you need to (for example, until I learnt the key for it I would use the menus for spell check). What is it saying about Visual Studio? That it suddenly becomes very easy? Anyway, interesting method of comparison. I&#8217;m not sure if it inspires conclusions though <img src='http://grimboy.co.uk/blawg/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandre</title>
		<link>http://grimboy.co.uk/blawg/vim-is-teh-awesombe/comment-page-1/#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexandre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 04:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, at the end, we are both &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.saki.com.au/mirror/vi/mirror/knottenbelt_william.vi_vs_emacs_study..txt&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;winners&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, at the end, we are both <a href="http://www.saki.com.au/mirror/vi/mirror/knottenbelt_william.vi_vs_emacs_study..txt" rel="nofollow">winners</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandre</title>
		<link>http://grimboy.co.uk/blawg/vim-is-teh-awesombe/comment-page-1/#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexandre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 04:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A while ago, I came across the &lt;a href=&quot;http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/pictures/curves.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;following picture&lt;/a&gt;.

So true, so true. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A while ago, I came across the <a href="http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/pictures/curves.jpg" rel="nofollow">following picture</a>.</p>
<p>So true, so true. <img src='http://grimboy.co.uk/blawg/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: grimboy</title>
		<link>http://grimboy.co.uk/blawg/vim-is-teh-awesombe/comment-page-1/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>grimboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 01:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am just bouncing thoughts around and making sure I keep writing. I&#039;m keeping myself occupied as well. Writing entries &lt;strong&gt;does&lt;/strong&gt; help me think about what I&#039;m writing about. It finalizes it in my brain. Those ads are there because Project Wonderful seemed cool. I&#039;m obviously not going to make money from them but I don&#039;t really care. This site is just a dumping ground and a place for me to reference back to anyway. I keep a lot of stuff in a personal whikey but stuff I think might be useful to others I finalise into an entry. I probably won&#039;t become &lt;strike&gt;notorious&lt;/strike&gt; famous. It is big a shame that that the masses won&#039;t be able to appreciate my amazing genius, however, it&#039;s not a big deal for me. Thanks for showing concern though.

Also that script works for me. (That is, firebug doesn&#039;t throw up anything).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am just bouncing thoughts around and making sure I keep writing. I&#8217;m keeping myself occupied as well. Writing entries <strong>does</strong> help me think about what I&#8217;m writing about. It finalizes it in my brain. Those ads are there because Project Wonderful seemed cool. I&#8217;m obviously not going to make money from them but I don&#8217;t really care. This site is just a dumping ground and a place for me to reference back to anyway. I keep a lot of stuff in a personal whikey but stuff I think might be useful to others I finalise into an entry. I probably won&#8217;t become <strike>notorious</strike> famous. It is big a shame that that the masses won&#8217;t be able to appreciate my amazing genius, however, it&#8217;s not a big deal for me. Thanks for showing concern though.</p>
<p>Also that script works for me. (That is, firebug doesn&#8217;t throw up anything).</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandre</title>
		<link>http://grimboy.co.uk/blawg/vim-is-teh-awesombe/comment-page-1/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexandre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 01:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it&#039;s just me, I think you don&#039;t really understand what a blog is for. A blog is a way to criticize your own ideas. Writing down what you think, allows you to build a new perspective on those ideas.

&lt;strong&gt;A blog is certainly not a way to become famous, or incidentally to make money.&lt;/strong&gt;

Just do it for yourself and the fun of it. Don&#039;t do it just to put some stuff on your website. If you do so, then you&#039;re losing your time.

If you really want to write a blog, then do it offline. It will force you to do it for you, and only for you. Then, when you start to feel comfortable with this idea, you can to think about sharing it with the rest of the interwebs.

Maybe it&#039;s just me ...

P.S.: You got some broken Javascript.
&lt;code&gt;&lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot;&gt;
    _uacct = &quot;UA-270185-3&quot;;
    urchinTracker();
&lt;/script&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s just me, I think you don&#8217;t really understand what a blog is for. A blog is a way to criticize your own ideas. Writing down what you think, allows you to build a new perspective on those ideas.</p>
<p><strong>A blog is certainly not a way to become famous, or incidentally to make money.</strong></p>
<p>Just do it for yourself and the fun of it. Don&#8217;t do it just to put some stuff on your website. If you do so, then you&#8217;re losing your time.</p>
<p>If you really want to write a blog, then do it offline. It will force you to do it for you, and only for you. Then, when you start to feel comfortable with this idea, you can to think about sharing it with the rest of the interwebs.</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s just me &#8230;</p>
<p>P.S.: You got some broken Javascript.<br />
<code>&lt;script type="text/javascript"&gt;<br />
    _uacct = "UA-270185-3";<br />
    urchinTracker();<br />
&lt;/script&gt;<br />
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		<title>By: grimboy</title>
		<link>http://grimboy.co.uk/blawg/vim-is-teh-awesombe/comment-page-1/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>grimboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 23:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t generally take editor wars too seriously. Something that was once real has turned into a tradition that is brought back sometimes in a somewhat tongue in cheek way. Still, we, the cult of vi, will overcome our &lt;strike&gt;Christian&lt;/strike&gt; Emacsian oppressors.

Posting myself on digg was me keeping the whole egotism thing going. I have to meet my quarterly targets for self-indulgence. I&#039;m sure you understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t generally take editor wars too seriously. Something that was once real has turned into a tradition that is brought back sometimes in a somewhat tongue in cheek way. Still, we, the cult of vi, will overcome our <strike>Christian</strike> Emacsian oppressors.</p>
<p>Posting myself on digg was me keeping the whole egotism thing going. I have to meet my quarterly targets for self-indulgence. I&#8217;m sure you understand.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandre</title>
		<link>http://grimboy.co.uk/blawg/vim-is-teh-awesombe/comment-page-1/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexandre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 23:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, I was just joking. So don&#039;t take any of my comments too seriously.

That&#039;s what you get when you post your own blog entries &lt;a&gt;on Digg&lt;/a&gt;. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I was just joking. So don&#8217;t take any of my comments too seriously.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what you get when you post your own blog entries <a>on Digg</a>. <img src='http://grimboy.co.uk/blawg/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: grimboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>grimboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 17:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark Pilgrim is the man. However, I don&#039;t think that what he&#039;s saying is necessarily:
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;Imaginary Mark Pilgrim&quot;&gt;Emacs is the best editor for editing python code&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I think what he&#039;s saying is more along the lines of:
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;Imaginary Mark Pilgrim&quot;&gt;Stop asking this question. There are lots of editors but I don&#039;t want to go through them all &lt;em&gt;again&lt;/em&gt;. Emacs has worked well for me. Use that because it&#039;s as good as any other editor.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
(Although I am obviously speculating)

Invoking Pilgrim myself:
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;Mark Pilgrim&quot;&gt;I’ve tried vi and vim and gvim and Lemmy and all the rest; they just don’t fit my brain.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well I&#039;ve tried GNU Emacs and it doesn&#039;t fit my brain. Modal editing makes sense to me. A few tools to aid with python coding exist for it. That&#039;s enough for me. My brain is a different shape for Pilgrim&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Pilgrim is the man. However, I don&#8217;t think that what he&#8217;s saying is necessarily:</p>
<blockquote cite="Imaginary Mark Pilgrim"><p>Emacs is the best editor for editing python code</p></blockquote>
<p>I think what he&#8217;s saying is more along the lines of:</p>
<blockquote cite="Imaginary Mark Pilgrim"><p>Stop asking this question. There are lots of editors but I don&#8217;t want to go through them all <em>again</em>. Emacs has worked well for me. Use that because it&#8217;s as good as any other editor.</p></blockquote>
<p>(Although I am obviously speculating)</p>
<p>Invoking Pilgrim myself:</p>
<blockquote cite="Mark Pilgrim"><p>I’ve tried vi and vim and gvim and Lemmy and all the rest; they just don’t fit my brain.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well I&#8217;ve tried GNU Emacs and it doesn&#8217;t fit my brain. Modal editing makes sense to me. A few tools to aid with python coding exist for it. That&#8217;s enough for me. My brain is a different shape for Pilgrim&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandre</title>
		<link>http://grimboy.co.uk/blawg/vim-is-teh-awesombe/comment-page-1/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexandre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 16:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What editor should I use to write Python code?

The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.diveintopython.org/html_processing/quoting_attribute_values.html#d0e21764&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;answer&lt;/a&gt; may surprise you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What editor should I use to write Python code?</p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.diveintopython.org/html_processing/quoting_attribute_values.html#d0e21764" rel="nofollow">answer</a> may surprise you.</p>
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		<title>By: grimboy</title>
		<link>http://grimboy.co.uk/blawg/vim-is-teh-awesombe/comment-page-1/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>grimboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;Alexandre&quot;&gt;:.,+4!sort&lt;/blockquote&gt;
or :!4Gsort
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I know about markdown. I just think most people already know some html. Why make them learn something else? Markdown is fairly natural to write though and can be picked up in minutes. Just tried out a markdown plugin for wordpress (couldn&#039;t find any for restructured text). It works, but it allows people not only to shove h1s in posts (which I can tolerate) but also to shove script tags into posts (which I can&#039;t). Anyway, it&#039;s not like the html has to validate or anything. Wordpress fixes it. So for example: &lt;code&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Jim
  &lt;li&gt;Bob
  &lt;li&gt;Mary&lt;/code&gt; will be made into valid xhtml.
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Do you mean it&#039;s a bit small? I&#039;ve made it bigger.
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<blockquote cite="Alexandre"><p>:.,+4!sort</p></blockquote>
<p>or :!4Gsort
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I know about markdown. I just think most people already know some html. Why make them learn something else? Markdown is fairly natural to write though and can be picked up in minutes. Just tried out a markdown plugin for wordpress (couldn&#8217;t find any for restructured text). It works, but it allows people not only to shove h1s in posts (which I can tolerate) but also to shove script tags into posts (which I can&#8217;t). Anyway, it&#8217;s not like the html has to validate or anything. WordPress fixes it. So for example: <code>
<ul>
<li>Jim
  </li>
<li>Bob
  </li>
<li>Mary</li>
</ul>
<p></code> will be made into valid xhtml.
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Do you mean it&#8217;s a bit small? I&#8217;ve made it bigger.
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